Rate Controller Configuration & Using a Raven Console with a Deere GS 2630 Display

by Lucas Veale, Assumption, IL 

Rate controllers have been the hot topic the last few weeks.  Customers have been using them to apply liquid fertilizer or NH3 in a side dress application.  If you have a FAST valve with no master on/off valve then you need to have the control valve setup as a Fast-Close configuration.  If you have a FAST valve with a master then it needs to be configured simply as a FAST.  The default control valve number is 743 for a FAST valve.  If you have some surging or hunting symptoms, change the control valve number to 303 and that should reduce the hunting.  If you have a standard valve then the control valve number is 2123.  For the raven flow meter cal number there should be a tag on it that will read “700” or “730” or something similar.  This is the number that you will want to use.  If so, make sure that you set the flow meter units to 10 gal and NOT gallons.  Also make sure that you check the actual N box when entering your rates with NH3.  There may also be another number on the tag that says NH3 -“187.”  Do NOT use the 187 or similar number for NH3 or liquid.  This number is for a Raven SCS console because you cannot change the units to lbs per acre nor can you change it to actual N in the  Raven console.  They use a factor to convert the flow meter number to get actual N.  Remember, a flow meter can only read in a liquid format so that is why they have to use a different number for NH3 in the Raven console.  This is not true for the rate controller.

 

If you are using a Raven console and using the field doc connect wiring kit (PF90363) to connect to GS2/3 to record your application or push prescriptions to the Raven, there are a couple steps you need to do to make sure that the two displays will communicate:

1. You will need to make sure that the Raven console “Data Menu” is set up.  The 4 items you need to check are the Baud Rate (9600), trigger value (1), trigger units (sec), and data log (on).

2. Go back the GS2/3 display under the Equipment tab and find the “COM Port” button.  Fill out the drop down boxes as necessary.  Make sure the one that says “connection type” is set to “field doc connect” and not serial port.  Once you have completed these steps you should hear 4 loud beeps from the Raven indication that communication is complete.

AMS Report 4.24.2014

by Josh Zuck

Spring is finally here. We have been really busy finishing up installs and getting planters ready . NH3 is getting close to done. I had a few planters start yesterday with more this week to get started.

I had the opportunity to work with a customer and his new Raven Vortex HP NH3 system. It is a single cooler system that runs a pump to increase the NH3 pressure. He installed on a 2510H 23 row. With a single cooler he could run 8 MPH at 200 units per acre. This system is full ISOBUS and runs through the GS3 2630 without the need of a rate controller. The GS3 also uses the Section Control to shutoff sections of the bar. It was also very easy to set up and run with the GS3.

I ran into an issue where a AT Controller on a Case IH was throw a fault in the Raven setup screen along with code ACI 522390.09. I downloaded the latest Raven software and the customer ran for 2 days then it threw the same code again. I re-downloaded the software again and it worked, but I also did a DTAC case and will keep everyone updated once they get back to me.

Seeing a lot of down force sensors reading zero yet. Seems like a few things can get them working again. Raise planter and zero, calibrate height switch, disable and re-enable. There’s also a DTAC case that talks about resetting the PM2 controller as a last resort, but I haven’t had to do that yet.

Joe Brunker and Jon Reynolds found a bad poly phaser( part used to protect the amp from lightning strikes ) was the problem on weak signal at the Hazel Green leg.  With that said all towers are now up and operational.  With a few more climbs we will be finished on all towers.

During a few installs, I noticed that our RTK signal was very strong.  In several cases I was able to get 100% RTK data received inside steel machine sheds, and in one case that was 8 miles away.  Another instance was getting the Shullsburg tower all the way up to the Lancaster tower (30.98 miles away), unfortunately the Deere software won’t let you run that far from a tower.  All of the current RTK customers have begun gator mapping and have reported better coverage than they expected.

Bill adds, “this past week I had the pleasure of fighting a 1770 that had Precision installed on it.  The planter needed a new d.p. node installed and while we were installing it we also installed new software and dielectric greased the connectors.  Before we left I checked over all settings and verified that it was correct.  A few days later customer is called complaining that the software made a bunch of his sensors not work and throw codes.  After another stop to their farm, and the better part of the day with help from a Cuba City tech, we realized that the Precision Planting 20/20 was booting up after the 2630 causing sensors for both vacuum motors and other random codes to be thrown.  They all went away and planter preformed normally when the precision stuff was removed out of the system.  I truly feel that during season calls for random “odd” errors our first diagnostic test should be to remove any and all precision harnesses.  9 out if 10 times it would solve the problem.”

Bill also had an iTc receiver on 4830 sprayer with 2630 display.  The display had an error message of no GPS signal and couldn’t be accepted to move to another screen.  It ended up being software.   Receiver would work on another display, so I loaded software on that first and then was able to get the customers display to acknowledge and also take new software

New 1790 planters will unfold with the rock shaft units in the raised position. Follow D-Tac solution 67973 and make adjustments as necessary. Lots of damage occurs when these are folded out with the units raised.

New 4038R set up finding a noise in the right front corner of the cab, following all solutions did not prove any results. Only seems to occur on rougher roads and only while going down- hill. We delivered to Customer and they are aware of the problem and will continue to monitor. Have also entered a D-Tac case.

AMS Report 3.29.14

by Josh Zuck

The weather is still not our friend and there is still a lot of frost in the ground. A few guys have applied some fertilizer, but can only run a few hours in the morning before the ground thaws out.

Teke Heinschel, Sales Represantive at Lanark, has been keeping busy mapping field boundaries for RTK customers. He has around 2500 acres done with another 11,000 to go. Customers up this way don’t have any square fields and a lot of waterways.  In fields like this, RTK can pay for its self in 1 year and customers can really see the seed savings when it comes to RTK.

We held a customer silage clinic in Verona, WI and had a very good turnout.  The discussions centered around the Kernel Processor and Deere’s Kernel Star vs. Shredlage.

We also held a sprayer clinic in Monroe and had another great customer turn out. Hy-pro had a rep from their company that attended along with a rep from Firestone tire.  The Firestone rep did a tire pressure discussion along with a tire contact board that showed footprint differences under different tire pressure settings.  The Hy-pro rep brought up a sprayer boom simulator that represented a sprayer boom with clear plastic pipe to show how little water the boom had in it during operation (half air and half water).  He also had a version that had the new end cap aspirators on it to show how they operate.  The air in the boom is what causes the nozzles to slowly build a pattern and also has a weak turn on and off time.  Customers were very impressed when they saw the difference in the tip flow and how that would apply the correct amount of product where they wanted.   It and also greatly improved on and off times. Cuba City had three customers agree to put them on their sprayers.  We have done one install already and we have the special tools to do both high flow and standard flow if anyone also needs to do them in the shop.

Joe Brunker, Product Support Specialist at Monroe, WI, ran into an issue with Apex where the RX acres were not correct. Some were ½ off and some were 1/3 off. Deere is aware of the issue but no fix at this time. They said it should not affect planting.

Installs are underway and we have been doing a lot of rate controllers on NH3 bars along with all different kinds of liquid fertilizer systems on planters. Customers are still pricing new and used AMS equipment.

The northern stores will be getting the RTK towers finished up next week with the help of a few guys down south coming up to assist with the install.

I installed an Auto Trac controller in a T9.390 NH 4wd yesterday. It went very quick and was easy to install.  These  Auto Trac controllers have really sparked some interest this year. You can utilize the other brands ISO connector and harness for the most part and it is a very clean set up, especially for customer that have a red tractor and a John Deere Planter.

Row units are still coming in to get ran on the test stand. Make sure that all the brand new planters that we sell to send to the stores that have the test stands. Every new meter has needed adjustments to achieve the best spacing.  Just remember that the row units don’t come ready to plant from the factory.

AMS Report 3.29.2014

by Lucas Veale

The spring season is trying to get here in some areas of central Illinois.  A few places have seen NH3 and other fertilizer being applied.  There are even rumors of a field or two that have been planted.  Customers are definitely making last minute preparations for spring as the store and phone traffic is on the rise.  The AMS crew has been completing customer visits on planter and tractors as well as Accudepth Field Cultivators.

AMS product sales are also going well right now.  StarFire 3000 Receivers and RTK upgrades are leading the way along with strong autotrac and swath control activation sales.

Kinze ISO conversions also continue to gain in popularity.  The Sloan AMS team has done several installs this winter with a couple yet to go.  One issue is the version 2.0 software update.  It has provided frustration as it takes several attempts to get it to install.  Matt Dehlinger, Product Support Specialist at our Effingham, IL location, reports that if this occurs you should shut off the key, unplug the planter harness, re-install the planter harness, and try again.  He has had success with this procedure to get the software installed. Also see his comments about downloading from the website.

“Kinze ISO updates have been causing issues yet.  When you download the update from Kinze click open and then copy the file straight to the File Server folder on the zip drive and don’t change the name of it and it should work.”  Matt Dehlinger, Product Support Specialist at Effingham, IL location.

Josh Thornton, product support specialist at the White Hall, IL location, reports that the R-series sprayers have a connector at the back of the cab that connects a CAB CAM to the GS3.  However, the connector is different than what is found on an R-Series tractor.  Deere has a harness but it is on backorder.

Lucas Benning, product support specialist at the Vandalia, IL location,  has found a height switch from AG Leader that works well on Kinze planters that have rate controllers for ½ width swath control.  He also found a solution for a 900 radio not being recognized by the receiver.  His comments are below

“When I was checking RTK bases, the 900 radio would not recognize on the receiver. I updated software and still nothing. I back dated software to 1.52 and it worked just fine. I ended up having to reinstall GS Live Update and then download the 1.90 software on the receiver and it seemed to work fine.” Lucas Benning, Product Support Specialist at Vandalia, IL location.

Matt Sweitzer, Atwood, IL and Justin Bickel, Virden, IL,  have seen issues with upgrading ITC receivers to 3000s and the Stellar Support website seems to be the issue.  They are working on a solution.  In the meantime, be careful trying to update.  It might be beneficial to call the JD activation line when trying to complete this so you will have documentation if the problem arises.

Jared Wheeler, product support specialist at Assumption, IL, has been busy loading cards for the Mapping Service and converting prescriptions from Harvest Max.  He says that wireless data transfer is gaining a lot of interest.

Derek Sloan, product support specialist at Assumption, has been busy running the gator doing our boundary and A/B line service.  We have completed about 14,500 acres since Jan 1 with this service.  Customers like the convenience of their A/B lines already loaded and having their waterways mapped so the planter clutches will shut off when they cross it.  It has also driven some RTK upgrades.

Matt Sweitzer and Dylan Vickers, both at the Atwood, IL location of Sloan Implement, completed setup of the ExactEmerge planter at the Atwood location.  Read Matt’s comments on this task.

“Dylan (Vickers) and I also set up the new ExactEmerge planter. Set up is pretty straight forward. It is much easier to run the planter because you do not need the simulator kit anymore. You can run the meters from the cab and then get out and walk around the planter.  The new Seedstar monitor is also much improved in my opinion.” Matt Sweitzer, Product Support Specialist at Sloan Implement  Atwood, IL.

The new seed meter test stand has been very successful.  We have signed up 438 meters since Feb 6th when we picked up the stand.  We have 48 more rows pending sign up if we can get to them before they need to start planting.  One of the biggest issues comes from customers leaving the plates and seed in the hoppers over winter.  Jake Pippen, product support at Assumption, has done a great job with this unit.  See his comments on new planter seed meters.  He has also received quite a bit of help from Josh Zuck.

“I have been running meters and found that the hubs on a brand new pro-series planter were way too loose and needed to be tightened at least a full turn to raise the torque  to aprrox 40-45 in-lbs.   Also on finger pickups, we have been having good luck with running the Precision fingers and Kinze back plates.  I have also had good luck running the Precision fingers and Precision back plates.  Running Kinze on Kinze will work, but not near as high of singulation percentage as the other settings.  I also found one of the meter housings was sprung causing poor singulation.  I have also noticed that if the door seals are caked with talc and seed treatment,  then you will need to clean off the seals  and run for 10+ tests to get them to “wear” back in to the meter and start running properly. ” Jake Pippen, Product Support Specialist at Assumption, IL.

The call center started on Monday.   Please refer customers to this number for any AMS questions that they might have including SF2 subscriptions.  Any feedback about the call center would be appreciated.

AMS Report 12.9.2013

by Josh Zuck

Well I have to say that winter has finally approached. We have been in single digit temps. and had about 3-4 inches of snow hit the ground yesterday.

We had some NH3 late last week and some chiseling. The frozen ground put a stop to that. May not see another window for that till the spring.

Had an issue with Wireless Data Transfer, where it would not send a farm. Customer had issues where it wouldn’t send a whole farm or only send parts of a field. The only way to resend is to go into Mydeere.com and find the date when that field was harvested and resend. It would take about 5 – 10 min. to send. Did have one field that would not send at all and had to use the USB to get it to APEX.

Had a GS3 locking up on an S-series combine. Updated combine and GS3 software and didn’t seem to help. Found that the display was 70% full. Export Data and cleared and that helped a lot.

Planters have been showing up and will be setting them up soon.

AMS Report 11.22.2013

by Lucas Veale

Well I have to say that winter has finally approached. We have been in single digit temps. and had about 3-4 inches of snow hit the ground yesterday.

We had some NH3 late last week and some chiseling. The frozen ground put a stop to that. May not see another window for that till the spring.

Had an issue with Wireless Data Transfer, where it would not send a farm. Customer had issues where it wouldn’t send a whole farm or only send parts of a field. The only way to resend is to go into MyJohnDeere.com and find the date when that field was harvested and resend. It would take about 5 – 10 min. to send. Did have one field that would not send at all and had to use the USB to get it to APEX.

Had a GS3 locking up on an S-series combine. Updated combine and GS3 software and didn’t seem to help. Found that the display was 70% full. Export Data and cleared and that helped a lot.

Planters have been showing up and will be setting them up soon.